Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Interview with Dr. Marksberry: Conventional Electromedicine - Issue #7


This month we are featuring  Part 1 of  our interview with Jeffrey A. Marksberry, MD. Dr. Marksberry who is the Science and Education Director of Electromedical Products International, Inc (EPI).  EPI is the company that developed the Alpha-Stim technology and manufactures the units.  As leading research analyst for studies on the Alpha-Stim, Dr. Marksberry has vast knowledge of the philosophy and technology behind electromedicine, microcurrent, and what makes certain waveforms good for your body and brain.

         The Philosophy behind Alpha-Stim:                                                       
                                        Interview with Dr. Jeffrey Marksberry, Part. 1                 


First, I’d like to hear about how you first became interested in electromedicine.

I think the first exposure I had to it was that I had a friend who got an Alpha-Stim from his chiropractor.  Then I saw a job posting [by EPI], and was really tired of traveling as often as I was, and I got an interview for the job.  I liked what they said.  I wouldn’t say I was skeptical, but just like anyone, like “Wow” if it’s as good as it sounds, then it would change medicine.  I got the job and took the device home, and then New Years my daughter had a sleep-over at our house and ran into the bed and broke her nose when they were playing.  I hadn’t used the probes yet, so I just pulled it out, and her nose wasn’t displaced so it wasn’t like she had to go to the hospital and have it moved or anything like that.  It was just really swollen and really painful. So I got the probes out, treated her nose for about a minute, and then another minute went by and she was like, “It doesn’t hurt anymore.” I mean she was crying and all this, and then she was, “It doesn’t hurt anymore.” That lasted I think the rest of the day, and then the next morning she woke up, the swelling was much better.  She had a little bit of pain, so I treated her again and that was all the pain that she had.  And then around that same time I put up Christmas plants and dropped a big planter on my foot and broke some toes and my foot, and I used it on myself and it just took away the pain.  I couldn’t believe it.  You know, quicker than any medicine I’ve had for pain, so I was pretty convinced then about the pain.  Then I was a believer, but it took awhile for me to treat some people before I’d really see changes with depression or anxiety or PTSD. 

Can you tell us what the philosophy behind micro-current technology is?

It’s probably two things. One is that the body has the power to heal itself.  And I think we deliver a lot of raw materials with the waveform. We know that frequencies, electrical frequencies, can help with things – with anxiety, with pain, with a number of things.  And a lot of conditions are considered to be an electrical problem, in tremors or anything neurologic.  There is a chemical component, but it is probably electrically based.  But with our waveform we are really delivering a lot of raw materials to the brain and letting it do what it needs to do to normalize itself.  No matter what we see, it’s heading toward normal.  So if a patient is depressed, it elevates their mood, but if they are anxious and manic, it will lower their mood.  No matter what they are doing you are normalizing the patient.

Right, and I guess we usually describe the effect of the Alpha-Stim as increasing Alpha waves, because the majority of people try it because they still have some Delta or Theta brain waves from sleep or from depression and insomnia.

That’s exactly right.  I think that of everything we do it is really normalizing.  Everyone has cultural differences of what they think “normal” is, but for a human being, physically and physiologically, depression is not a normal state, and mania is not the normal state.  So we are always driving a person to sleeping better, to having normal sleep patterns, to not having pain perception all the time, normalizing that.  So whatever their condition is, it seems to help normalize.

This ties into my next question.  Dr. Kirsch is quoted as saying, “Physics controls chemistry.”   What do you think he means by that?

Well, chemistry is involved in a lot of things, protons and neutrons and electrons.  A compound may have chloride ions and sodium ions, but how they react and how they act on each other is based on the physics of the components.  While everyone has chemicals in their bodies, how they react and how they react with each other is based on the physics of that person, electrically or physically, it is based on the laws of physics.

As the leading research analyst for the Alpha-Stim you must be confronted with the issue of how it is defined in the medical world.  And I am very curious about the history of electromedicine and why a lot of people think of it as “alternative” medicine even today.

I think if you go back, probably pre-penicillin, it wasn’t considered alternative, it was considered mainstream.  But as drugs really took off with antibiotics, with discovering DNA, with advances in microscopy, and designing medicine, then those became huge, and electromedicine was really left behind.  Then you get large companies that really job that market.  I’m sure you’ve read Politics and Healing.  You can see how the efforts that are non-pharmacological often get squashed if you are not ready to sell the rights to AMA or Johnson and Johnson.  If you don’t work for them, they will bury you.  So a lot of companies have gone out because they weren’t large enough to compete with the Pfizers and Mercs of the world. 

When doctors are trained now, you have a class on pharmacology.  You don’t have a class on, I guess it would be called, “therapeutic options.”  That’s not the class, its pharmacology.  You go in, and over a semester you learn 700 drugs, and how they work, and how they act on each other, and what if you are taking two, and what you can’t take when your pregnant, but you don’t learn the benefits of someone that’s meditating or acupuncture or behavioral therapy, things like that.  And you don’t learn about electromedicine either.

If you look up the definition of alternative medicine, it just says, “That which is not conventional medicine,” or sometimes, “ that which has not been scientifically proven to be effective and safe.” 

I would say it’s probably more subjective, it’s probably more practitioner to practitioner, and they have in their own mind what they consider is alternative or not.  If you’re only doing one thing, whatever it is, anything else is unconventional.  There are some older doctors that still write the same 10 or 15 prescriptions that they did 30 years ago and have no intention on changing anything.  So even an antidepressant would be unconventional for them. 

So tell me how electromedicine, and specifically the Alpha-Stim, falls within the realm of conventional medicine.

I think it should because, just like anything in medicine, as a practitioner you should be following the Hippocratic Oath – you won’t do any harm, so you are focusing on safety, and you are only doing things that help the patient – and that really boils down to every decision you make there’s a risk and a reward ratio.  You know, “Is this surgery going to help the patient, if so, how much?  What are the risks and side-effects before you decide on doing that?”  With Alpha-Stim, with really no safety issue, the worst that can happen is that it doesn’t work for that patient.  And you always start non-invasive first.  A patient is over-weight, well you don’t go to a gastric by-pass. You start with diet and exercise, getting a nutritionist involved, you go through the steps. That builds up to eventually maybe they get a gastric bypass, if nothing has worked and they have honestly tried, and had the psychological review that they are supposed to, and all those steps.  But you always try the non-invasive thing first – or you’re supposed to.  And if you have a patient that’s interested in that, then you do a risk-reward ratio – and with a zero on the risk then any reward is good.  So the Alpha-Stim almost always passes that test.